Thursday, November 29, 2007

General Kerr Gets Schooled By Duncan Hunter

Here is the General Kerr / Duncan Hunter exchange in it's entirety... From CNN.
Below that, are some more examples of the planted questions (and otherwise) that were knocked out of the park by Duncan Hunter in last nights CNN Youtube Republican debate including his Christmas challenge to you.

Anderson Cooper:
It's about attack ads. It's an interesting show starting at 11:00 East Coast time tonight.

All right, let's get back to the debate. Another question from a YouTube viewer. Let's watch.

Brigadier Gen. Keith Kerr (Ret.): My name's Keith Kerr, from Santa Rosa, California. I'm a retired brigadier general with 43 years of service. And I'm a graduate of the Special Forces Officer Course, the Commanding General Staff Course and the Army War College. And I'm an openly gay man.

I want to know why you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians.

Cooper: I want to point out that Brigadier General Keith Kerr is here with us tonight. I'm glad you're here.


Again, the question to Congressman Hunter.

Hunter: General, thanks for your service, but I believe in what Colin Powell said when he said that having openly homosexual people serving in the ranks would be bad for unit cohesion.

The reason for that, even though people point to the Israelis and point to the Brits and point to other people as having homosexuals serve, is that most Americans, most kids who leave that breakfast table and go out and serve in the military and make that corporate decision with their family, most of them are conservatives.

They have conservative values, and they have Judeo-Christian values. To force those people to work in a small tight unit with somebody who is openly homosexual goes against what they believe to be their principles, and it is their principles, is I think a disservice to them. I agree with Colin Powell that it would be bad for unit cohesion.

(Red's SIDENOTE: From the "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" official policy... "would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability.")

Cooper: I want to direct this to Governor Huckabee.

Thirty seconds.

Huckabee: The Uniform Code of Military Justice is probably the best rule, and it has to do with conduct. People have a right to have whatever feelings, whatever attitudes they wish, but when their conduct could put at risk the morale, or put at risk even the cohesion that Duncan Hunter spoke of, I think that's what is at issue. And that's why our policy is what it is.

Cooper: Governor Romney, you said in 1994 that you looked forward to the day when gays and lesbians could serve, and I quote, "openly and honestly in our nation's military." Do you stand by that?

Romney: This isn't that time. This is not that time. We're in the middle of a war. The people who have...

Cooper: Do you look forward to that time, though, one day?

Romney: I'm going to listen to the people who run the military to see what the circumstances are like. And my view is that, at this stage, this is not the time for us to make that kind of...

Cooper: Is that a change in your position...

Romney: Yes, I didn't think it would work. I didn't think "don't ask/don't tell" would work. That was my -- I didn't think that would work. I thought that was a policy, when I heard about it, I laughed. I said that doesn't make any sense to me.

And you know what? It's been there now for, what, 15 years? It seems to have worked.

Cooper: So, just so I'm clear, at this point, do you still look forward to a day when gays can serve openly in the military or no longer?

Romney: I look forward to hearing from the military exactly what they believe is the right way to have the right kind of cohesion and support in our troops and I listen to what they have to say.

(Audience booing)

Cooper: All right. General Kerr is -- as I said -- is here.

Please stand up, General. Thank you very much for being with us.

Did you feel you got an answer to your question?

Kerr: With all due respect, I did not get an answer from the candidates.


Cooper: What do you feel you did not...

Kerr: American men and women in the military are professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians.

For 42 years, I wore the army uniform on active duty, in the Reserve, and also for the state of California. I revealed I was a gay man after I retired.

Today, "don't ask/don't tell" is destructive to our military policy.

Every day, the Department of Defense discharges two people, not for misconduct, not for the unit cohesion...

Cooper: Wait, the mike is -- you've lost me. Is the microphone not working? Please, just finish your -- what is your question?

Kerr: Not for the unit cohesion that Congressman Hunter is talking about, but simply because they happen to be gay.

Cooper: OK. Senator McCain ...

KERR: And we're talking about doctors, nurses, pilots, and the surgeon who sews somebody up when they're taken from the battlefield.

Cooper: I appreciate your comments.

Senator McCain, I want to give you 30 seconds. You served in the military.

McCain: General, I thank you for your service to our nation. I respect it. All the time, I talk to our military leaders, beginning with our joint chiefs of staff and the leaders in the field, such as General Petraeus and General Odierno and others who are designated leaders with the responsibility of the safety of the men and women under their command and their security and protect them as best they can.

Almost unanimously, they tell me that this present policy is working, that we have the best military in history, that we have the bravest, most professional, best prepared, and that this policy ought to be continued because it's working.

(Red's Sidenote2- So everyone agrees with Duncan Hunter on this, except the Hillary campaign staffer with the microphone... no Not Anderson Cooper, the other one)

Another planted question referenced in the post below "CNN Debate Dictated by Democrats" came from Yasmin...

Cooper: Let's go to our next topic, which is foreign policy.

Our first question:

Yasmin: Good evening, gentlemen. My name is Yasmin and I hail from Huntsville, Alabama.

My question has to do with the current crisis in Iraq, as well as the U.S. efforts in Afghanistan.

After living abroad, personally, in the Middle East for a year, I realized just how much damage the Iraq war and the perception of invasion has done to the image of America. What would you do as president to repair the image of America in the eyes of the Muslim world?

Cooper: Thirty seconds, Congressman Hunter. The question is, how do you repair the image of America in the Muslim world?

Hunter: Cooper, Cooper, very simply, to the critics of America I would say this.

When you were faced with disease and starvation, the Americans brought food and medicine.

When you had earthquakes and tsunamis and floods, the Americans came and helped you.

And when you were threatened from outside, the Americans left the safety of their own homes to come and defend you.

I will never apologize for the United States of America.


The very first question of the debate immediately turned into a free-for-all brawl on immigration between Rudy's "sanctuary citiy" Vs Mitt's "sanctuary mansion" , after quickly confirming that neither Rudy nor Mitt can be trusted with the borders, it finally became Duncan Hunter's turn.

Cooper: Congressman Hunter?

Hunter: Yes. Cooper, a great debate. It's nice to listen to lots of statements about what the other candidates will do with respect to the borders.

I built that border fence in San Diego and it does work. It's a ...


You know, we built a double fence. We had the number one smuggler's corridor in America with most of the illegal aliens and most of the drugs that came into the entire country coming in through that number one corridor between Tijuana, Mexico, and San Diego, California.

We built the double-border fence with a road in between, and we reduced the smuggling of people and drugs by more than 90 percent. And as a result of that, the crime rate...


... the crime rate in the city of San Diego went down by 53 percent by FBI statistic.

And as a result of that, I wrote the law that the president signed last October 26, incidentally, passed the Senate 80-19, that mandates 854 miles of double-border fence across Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

Now, the administration has $800 million on hand right now, cash on hand. They haven't built a linear inch of that fence in Texas.

As president of the United States,
I will build the double-border fence,
all 854 miles,
in six months.

Cooper: Next question is ...


Hunter: That is my commitment.


And next (also a 'planted question')... this one about what the candidates will do to prevent poisonous toys from coming in from China.

Cooper: All right, let's have our next question from a YouTube viewer.

LeeAnn Anderson: My name is LeeAnn Anderson and I am from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and these are my kids Evan and May. Maya is from China and we adopted him to give her a better life. We never dreamed that she would that she'd be exposed to lead after leaving China, and now we find trains like this that are covered with lead in our home.

My question for the candidates are, what are you going to do to make sure that these kind of toys don't make their way into our homes and that we have safe toys that are made in America again and we keep jobs in America?

(Red's Sidenote- I can't help but point out here that in the video of her home with her children, she has the deadly toys in her hand and all around them everywhere, but doesn't bother to throw them out herself, instead asks... what is the government going to do?)

Cooper: Congressman Hunter, you have 30 seconds.


Hunter: China is cheating on trade, and they're using that $200 billion trade deficit over the United States to buy ships, planes and missiles.

They are clearly arming.
And it's in the interest of the United States...


... to stop China's cheating. My bill, incidentally, that's up right now would do that.

But what we all ought to do in this Christmas season, with about a month to go before Christmas is buy American.

That might hire the young person. That'll result in a...


You know, that just might keep your neighbor from losing his job, and it might help that young person coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan in uniform to have a job when they get back.

Let's buy American this Christmas season.


-red stater pledges to join Duncan Hunter in Buying American gifts for Christmas this year!
How about YOU?

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Blogger The Localmalcontent said...

There goes my plan to buy you and the lovely Better Half some Chinese chopsticks for your dining "pleasure". LOL

By the way, Rush Limbaugh is ripping CNN a new one today over the shoddy debate, and at the 12:33mark of his show, says that Duncan Hunter is the leader on the illegal immigraton issue! I listen on a tape delay station; but live on KTOK, it was at 12:33.
I hope it's OK I've lovingly lifted your post "CNN Debate Debacle..." for the LMC.
It's biting!

1:39 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Thats great news mal, thank you for passing it along... i missed it. (drat) and i am honored that you would do so and no need to ask...ever.

BTW- I prefer Japanese chopsticks... those Chinese make crap.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a schooling? "We can't have gays because most of the people in our military are intolerant rubes." Christ you fundies set the schooling bar low...but then you have to, don't you.

11:58 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

It's unfortunate that you think of the men and women who are defending your liberty are "intolerant rubes".

From where you are, you can't even see the bar, much less set it.

Sexual habits have NOTHING to do with the running a military... until you can show me that being gay (or not) can win a war, then it is not anyones business nor is it the business of the military to 'approve' all sexual habits once known.
End of story, even if one cranky old gay general thinks otherwise.

School's out.

12:40 PM  

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