Saturday, January 26, 2008

Partisan Divide Good or Bad?

The so-called "war" between this blog vs several liberal blogs has been called bad for the country and an example of what is wrong with politics today.
I submit that the differences and debate over those differences is what makes this country great and politics worthwhile.

The left wants to be able to say virtually anything and go unchallenged.
I invite those who disagree with me to challenge me on it.

Politics throughout our history has had passionate and heated differences and I believe that is a good thing. If we all agree on the issues and how the country should be run, we would live under a one-party system which may explain why those on the left continually call for just that.

Socialism and/or Communism don't allow for such differences and critique.
Freedom and Liberty provide and promote expression of differences in a democracy and in our Republic. It is the very foundation of our country. Those on the left seek to condemn those on the right for the very things those on the left do on a daily basis and then try to hide behind calling for non-partisanship.

All this chatter about 'civil discourse' while at the same time slamming those on the right is nothing more than hypocritical whining by those on the left seeking to end debate and silence their opponents. If not for passioned difference and heated debate... would the civil rights movement ever been a movement at all?

If not for passionate difference and fighting for what we believe in, we might still be under British rule... or more than likely German or Japanese rule.

To post your opinions on the internet and expect no rebuttal or opposing opinion is childish at best and certainly unrealistic. If you wish to not be challenged on your comments.... don't comment. If you wish for your ideas and ideals to not be subject to review and rebuttal, don't express your ideas and ideals on the internet for everyone to see.

I criticize Republicans when they are not being Republicans. I have said that George Bush is wrong about amnesty, wrong about our unfair trade agreements, that he is not a conservative in the Reagan mold and not an advocate for true conservative ideals. He was the right President at the right time however. Calling him a liar while ignoring the fact that virtually every democrat agreed with him and said exactly the same thing about Iraq and WMD is itself a big fat lie.

Someone tell me how ignoring lies by the left who falsely claim everyone on the right are liars is good for the country.
Someone tell me how not fighting for what you believe in and not fighting against what you oppose is good for the country.
Someone tell me how conceding conservative ideas to socialists and communists is good for the country.
Communism would provide exactly what those on the left are calling for, no debate, no heated difference, no differences. There are many other connections to the left and communism, calling for an end to heated debate is merely one example.
I will fight against that until my last breath on this planet and also fight for their right to disagree with me.
You want me to stop calling you moonbats?
Okay, would you prefer I refer to you as socialists or communists?


"America, is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." ... Joseph Stalin


Blogger Red S Tater said...

Stifling debate- a page from Stalin's playbook.
Last couple of paragraphs.

1:41 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

ohhh i forgot, btw- nowhere did you see me whine and complain about the names they have called me, but I will point out that in all their ranting and name calling they do not attempt refute my statements.

Regarding socialism/communism and the left.
Local Socialist JMBzine in a recent post about my piece "The New Christian Left" (Christianism) he confirms it and agrees with it.

2:15 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

The following in the response that I wrote on my blog earlier today.

"My purpose in writing this was to be as objective and fair to both of you as possible. It would have been very easy to write a pro-Red piece but I wanted to really look into the situation, try to not take sides, and just present it as I saw it. I hope I was able to do just that but considering that I wrote this at 1am and had been up since about 6:30am, I was very tired at the time.

I agree Red that having differences of opinions and expressing said differences is a good thing. It is a great thing. We need to express ideas and then put our heads together and turn those ideas into plans that can work. If we work together, we can accomplish great things. We can’t do this however if we are busy calling each other names. Both liberals and conservatives are extremely guilty of this practice and both need to stop. It’s not helping the situation, the country, or accomplishing anything. Let’s disagree, but let’s do it in civil and constructive ways. That having been said, if someone lies, then they need to be called out on it. If someone’s actions have unintended consequences, then they need to be called out on it. The Joe Biden being quoted by Al Jazeera is an excellent example, but instead of calling him names, pointing out his actions in a civil way would make a 1000% times better argument. When you call names, it only helps to rally the troops, so to speak, and does nothing to encourage intellectual debate. This of course is but one example.’s attack on General Petraeus is another. In both cases, any case or argument that is trying to be made is lost. Yes we need debate, but we need good debate."

7:02 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Is Hillary more Stalin or Marx?
Hillary Marxist either way, not my bag of tea.

10:18 AM  

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