Friday, March 13, 2009

America infested with destructive burrowing rodents, but it's not too late

I've been 'entertained' by the deception and antics of a few proud socialists and other radical lefties recently in my comments area of posts on whether Barack H Obama is indeed a socialist or not.

I am also aware that Obama and fellow Socialists/Communists, Marxists, Stalinists, and progressives alike must absolutely deny and hide the fact... and "be like moles burrowing under the surface, leaving no trace of their movement on the surface"- (Karl Marx).

For if average Americans wake up to the fact we're being sold down the river of socialism, slowly, piece by piece, too soon, ...if Americans wake up now, then it's over for Obama, over for Democrats and over for the "hope" and "change" and effort and work of decades of brainwashing the left in America (see "useful idiots") to get the point they have reached today.
Much is at stake 'comrades', they cannot afford to have the truth get out.... .....yet.

But... sometimes the rodents just can't help themselves and their joy gets the best of 'em... and we get a glimpse of the truth... before they run, deny and hide under the surface.

Michael M. Bates did a good job of pointing out that it's not just conservatives who know Obama is a socialist... their excitement overshadows their denials.
From Newsbusters- NY Times:
'Some Conservatives Have Implied' Obama's a Socialist'

In The New York Times today appears "The President Is on the Line to Follow Up on Socialism," by Jeff Zeleny. The article's first 3 paragraphs:

"Less than 90 minutes after Air Force One landed, the telephone rang. President Obama was on the line, wanting to add one more point to a response he gave during an interview with The New York Times.

On a flight from Ohio to Washington on Friday, Mr. Obama was asked whether his domestic policies suggested that he was a socialist, as some conservatives have implied.

“The answer would be no,” he said, laughing for a moment before defending his administration for “making some very tough choices” on the budget.

The left leaning news media of course is compliant with the "not a socialist" defense, exemplified here by the NY Times implication that only "some conservatives" think Obama's a Socialist.

Bate's points out the following:

"Less than a decade ago, for example, the Chicago affiliate of the Democratic Socialists of America endorsed Obama for the state senate. They admiringly quoted him: "Few are thinking of harnessing the internal productive capacities, both in terms of money and people, that already exist in communities."

At the beginning of last year's primary season, the Communist People's Weekly World printed a letter celebrating an early Obama win:

"Happy New Year and congratulations on a job well done. These have been trying times when the hyenas of war have again been turned loose on humanity by a greedy ruling class.

Now, beyond all the optimism I was capable of mustering, Mr. Obama won Iowa!. . .

Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. .

In August, the same publication carried an editorial written by Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA. Webb used the opportunity to give his comrades their marching orders:

"In order to advance one iota of a pro-people’s agenda, the people’s movement has to elect Obama and to enlarge the Democratic Party majorities in Congress. Without that everything else is wishful thinking."

Days after the inauguration, Webb addressed a People's Weekly World event held in Cleveland and began:

"I was standing on the Washington Mall on Inauguration Day, alongside nearly two million other people on Inauguration Day, and proudly watched the first African American take the oath of office in our nation’s history. That alone made the day deeply memorable, joyful, and historic. But I couldn’t help but think – and I’m sure that millions of others had the same thought – that the transfer of power from Bush to President Obama not only tore down a barrier that once was thought near impenetrable, but also signified the fading away of one era and the beginning of another.

It was hard not to think on that cold day in our nation’s capital that the worst of the past 30 years of right wing extremist rule is behind us and that an era of progressive change is within reach, no longer an idle dream."

Later in his address, Webb observed:

We now have not simply a friend, but a people's advocate in the White House.

Joelle Fishman is the chair of the political action committee of the Communist Party USA. On the party's Web site she analyzed the election results. The article started:

"Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!

We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-people’s movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all people’s movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.

The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and people’s unity. . .

The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in."

"Socialists and Communists may argue that Obama isn't radical enough, that he's much too conservative to be deemed a socialist. Yet their enthusiastic support and words belie that contention. Not just "some conservatives" have implied Obama is a socialist. People on the far left have given some might big hints"- Michael M Bates


Anonymous barndoor cowlegs said...

Man, you are paranoid, I think I'm done with this. No conservative worth his own salt would confuse the differences between socialism, social democracy, progressivism, or good old fashioned liberalism.

Why would there be this hidden agenda? power to the people by secret for what reason? to piss off conservatives, institute fascism? Your arguments don't make any sense.

Yes DSA and CPUSA endorse Obama, there is much disgust amongst democratic socialists about both of these parties. Do some research. If these groups simply endorse a candidate it doesn't mean that the candidate is a member of their group, or shares their views. It is akin to saying that George Bush is secretly a Nazi because the Nazi party supported him.

I wish we could have an intelligent conversation on this, unfortunately it is too easy for you to label someone instead of offering any real criticism. Why not list the reasons you disagree with Obama? Or why you disagree with liberalism. Or even why you disagree with the socialist perspective? (These are not the same things!)

4 or 8 years from now we won't be in a worker's state, I wish we would be, but it ain't gonna happen Tater. Saying it is so only shows your ignorance. I submit that it hurts your cause.

Or are you simply a propaganda tool? Is your secret mission to confuse the people about what socialism really is by equating it with capitalism somehow? I could go in depth on the differences, but you aren't interested in truth or objectivity. I should've seen through your attempts to portray yourself as a rational, thinking conservative. Instead you are a front for ignorance, the rich, rascists, and quasi-fascists who will do anything to stay rich and in power, whether they hold office or not. My hope that a so called conservative might address the truth of this situation is quashed.

I'm done, talk to you in the streets.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous barndoor cowlegs said...

ok, almost done, if you are really interested in learning the differences, Billy Wharton, editor of "The Socialist" newspaper will be in the Washington Post this Sunday.
it's on-line now here

now I'm done

10:42 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

done yet?

me thinks you protest too much.

9:52 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

And like I said earlier and in this post... baby steps little gopher baby steps.

Your entire defense is that Obama isn't Fidel Castro yet... that he's not as socialist as you'd like him to be so therefore he's not a socialist at all. Cute but not effective.

It's a shiny argument on the surface, but we aren't talking about whats happening on the surface are we?

10:04 AM  

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