Question For Democrats, Is It Worth It?

Set aside (for a moment) all of the "war for oil" claims (I'll address it below**) and No WMD (again below***) please answer this question I have for the anti-war socialists, populists, liberals and other assorted Democrats.

How can you oppose "reaching out in the only way possible" to hopeless people living under brutally oppressive religious fanatics the likes of which are now a threat to the entire world?

Why are you so determined to condemn the effort to bring a different way of life to Iraq and the middle east?
Why are you against the war to bring this about... (I know why*) or more specifically HOW can you be against bringing a chance for a better life to a hopeless part of the world?

Is war considered "reaching out in the only way possible"?
Yes, considering we were attacked in what the attackers themselves describe as global war on America and our allies (Jihad). Yes, considering removing Saddam by other means had failed and considering Islamic Jihadists moving in to claim Iraq for their own, declaring their own war on the civilian population in Iraq... yes, they reached out to us on 9/11 (and before) and we are reaching out appropriately now.
It's a little late for candy and flowers in this "courtship".

Democracy by gunpoint?
If you use this lame excuse for opposing the war in Iraq, then you don't understand American history don't understand what happened in Japan and Germany following WWII and don't understand the mentality of the Jihadists ...while failing to address the question by debating the method.

Maybe the Iraqis end up not choosing democracy and instead decide to vote themselves annexed into Iran... or maybe they actually do choose to run their own lives and government... HOW can YOU be against giving them at least the choice to decide?

If the US abandons the Iraqi people now (as you are demanding) they will certainly be once again be slaughtered and ruled by brutally oppressive (not just panties on the head and waterboarding) murdering fascist dictators for another generation... why (no, ...we know why*) HOW can you support this?

*WHY? My belief is that it is simply from Bush hatred. In my opinion you are willing (eager) to condemn these people to a lifetime of oppression, hatred and poverty because you hate one man so much.

So my real question I guess is...
"Is it worth it"?

Are all the lies, deception and hatred worth it?
Does the end justify the means?
To oppose giving people a chance, to oppose stopping a global Jihad designed to use that oil to destroy western civilization, to oppose this noble mission of our military, and ...to oppose the success of your own country in a war... all just to prove Bush wrong.

Is it worth all this just to get socialist control of the white house, Supreme court appointments and taxes?

Because I can guarantee you that when America went to war to end slavery, nazism and genocide in the past... it was damn sure worth it, just like it is worth it now to fight the jihadists and YOU to the very end. And to do it without lying about it, lying about you or pretending we're something that we are not.
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**War for oil... if you want to make oil a reason for being in Iraq, simple. The world (nor the US) cannot and must not let Islamic fascists control the middle east, the worlds largest oil supplies or the resources that oil provides. The result would be globally catastrophic and global warming would be the least of your worries... but that wasn't the question.

***WMD... was one of over a dozen official reasons given by the President, and yes, no large stockpiles were discovered in spite of every intelligence agency in the world agreeing that Saddam did have and was seeking to get nuclear weapons and the world had seen Saddam use chemical weapons, so claims of Bush lying are not supported by facts. Bush and apparently even Saddam's Generals thought they had WMD.
This claim of not justifying war does nothing to address the question I am putting to you, and as I posted earlier, YOU would have claimed all WMD's were planted by... Bush, so it doesn't matter that WMD's were not found.

To those that claim they are against all war no matter the cause... I say thank God you live in a country where everyone doesn't and never have felt that way, or else you wouldn't be living in this country... this would be more likely Germany, Japan or Russia....(based on history) but not America as we have ever known it.

To others, with apologies for my first four letter word on this blog.
Hopefully it will be the last.
-red