Thursday, January 24, 2008

Final Word? Not

A local blogger (using the term loosely) who was in the running for "Oklahoma's Worst Blog Of The Year -2007" has launched an ad hominem attack on me for submitting a direct quote from his hero Joe Biden at his site in response to the blogger's attack on the President, calling me a "troll" and "geezer" and calling my submitting Biden's quote an "ad hominem attack" and asserting that he gets the "final word". LOL

Almost every blogger gets comments that are not publishable (you should see some that I get) but I do try to make my comments at other sites relevant and on topic without cursing etc. The blogger in question however finds any disagreement to be an "ad hominem attack", which is one of his favorite phrases.
Not surprising since most of his posts are exactly that... name calling and ad hominem attacks.

Take the post that he is referring to in his ad hominem attack on me for example. He used a "study" (cough cough) funded by none other than George Soros (General Betrayus ring a bell?) to allegedly "prove" that President Bush and VP Cheney were lying about WMD.

I responded with a quote (with no comment by me except "false statements?" referring to the title of his piece) from his hero Joe Biden from 2007 defending his statements in 2002 where he said Bush and Cheney were not lying and that it wasn't a "pipedream" concocted by Cheney and that in fact Saddam was a threat, was trying to get nukes and had to be removed from power.

The ad hominem bloggers excuse for Biden?
He got all his info from Bush and is of course therefore not responsible for what he says and was "simply wrong"- it's Bush's fault. LOL
Why then does Biden stand by those words to this day?
Why did Biden say that he researched his own information and came to his own conclusions independent of Bush and or Cheney?
Not smart enough to read the bloggers site and get educated I suppose.
To those on the left, (like Bill and Hillary) quoting them in context is considered an ad hominem attack.
Not surprising from someone who says on his blog that in Oklahoma history, "sooners" were just people that "arrived first" without mentioning how they "arrived first". Not exactly a true description of sooners to say the least. But the blogger in question never lets facts get in the way of a good story.
I suggest he change the name of his blog to "Ad Hominem Thoughts".
Thanks for the free promotion though... I do appreciate that.

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Blogger Okie Campaigns said...


Keep up the good work, He is so DUMB that He thinks you and I are 'NeoCons'


1:05 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Thanks Okie...
Is that the same thing as a 'retrocon'? lol

BTW- congrats on your continued high ratings at blognewsnet or blognetnews whichever it is.

YOU keep up the good work my friend.

1:19 PM  
Blogger RMS941 said...

Great post Red
What a first class moron!
I hope all is well with you and family.
Keep hammering there ass.

4:53 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

RMS !!!! great to see you man. Boy have I missed you guys, sorry I'm not at the acoc to help out.

Thank you so much for dropping by.

I was over at your place and saw the re-draft hunter post yesterday.

BTW- the local blogger in question in this post is "sooner thought". lol
I love it when he calls me out, too fun. It really picked up my spirits and at a time when I really needed some humor and an easy target to drill.

5:02 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Grab your duct tape and sense of humor and head over to Adhominem Thought

5:13 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

just got back from looking at the comments posted over at sooner thought on this... LMAO.

Their source for Bush lied?
They heard it on that benchmark of truth... Television of course!

Soonie still doesn't get why I submitted his hero's quote agreeing with Bush.

Hint: it exposes him for the hypocrite he is... he calls Bush a liar and Biden a hero and they said the exact same thing... in fact Biden confirmed what Bush and Cheney said not refuted. LOL

I'm not trying to blame Biden or shift blame as he wrongly asserts in his comments section but he isn't bright enough to figure it out.
There is no blame since nobody lied... except sooner thought and George Soros that is.
too funny.

6:17 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

Hey Red... How many comments do you get that you don't publish?

12:26 AM  
Blogger Bucky The MoonBat Slayer said...

My goodness, didn't you know? All liberals are correct, and only liberals should have free speech...even of some of their speech contradicts their other speech...

1:27 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

dave, well... about one a month or so, I have a few in my not published dept right now... there are a few written in Arabic that I would someday like to get translated... one from you that I didn't publish out of respect for someone we both know... a few from that person also, I publish everything that I can. I mean I wouldn't censor someone for disagreeing with me or saying I am dumb or whatever, but I won't publish off topic personal attacks.

I don't know if you remember about a year and a half ago when I was doing the "Support Victory" thing... that is when I had to go to comment moderation.
Ever since then a couple dudes drop by with some Fbombs about every few weeks.
I post some controversial opinions that draw some very mad personal attacks... like abortion and the border stuff.

But I wouldn't delete someones comment just for disputing me or calling me a bonehead or anything like that... I think those are funny.

JMBzine guy just posted a comment this week back in the archived "New Christianism" post that you gave me a good review on... I published it.

That is the nice thing about comment moderation... you know when someone goes back into your archive and comments. That is a popular trick thinking you won't see it.

8:14 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

BTW- all of my comments over at sooner thought have been made with the knowledge that the only thing he publishes are comments that agree with him. I try to be as nice as possible in an effort to get him to approve it... no namecalling etc.
So his comment that people should see some of my comments... LOL I agree with him and wish he would publish them but no way, simply because I refute what he has said.
Kittenstomper is the same way. If you notice they both only publish agreeable comments or ones they think they can easily knock down.

They are both cowards in that respect. Then sooner has the gall to accuse me of the BS he did. That is why I called him on it.

8:22 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Just to show ya' how fair and balanced I am... these are the comments from soonerthoughts post about me...which btw he had no problem approving due to his "civil discourse" and no-namecalling policies. LOL

Blogger mezamashii said...

I request that you Ban & block the Tater Troll. He's an attention-whore who is not worth your time.

January 24, 2008 1:05 AM
Blogger SoonerThought said...

I received a comment from another Neocon mental giant who advised us to "get our heads out of our butts" and that the study was "not legitimate" because it was funded in part by a Liberal, George Soros. So, by that logic, since the Heritage Foundation is funded by NeoCons, all its studies are illegitimate. Or let's take that reasoning a little further: if a case for war is presented by a known liar, George Bush, it is also not legit?

January 24, 2008 11:33 AM
Blogger mezamashii said...

Speaking of getting one's head out of one's butt... um, I think the Neocon trolls are the ones living with their heads er.. in a state of denial.

What person with have a brain needs the study validated? I heard most of those lies on live on TV!

I mean come on, didn't you see Ashcroft & Rumsfield & Rice & Cheney & Bush all lie through their teeth?! Heck, I even watched with great interest when Colin Powell presented to the UN on Iraq thinking finally we'll hear the truth & even I could tell the evidence was fishy. I've seen better powerpoint presentations from gradeschoolers. It was the worst hearsay ever.

This doesn't take a bucket of brains to put together. All it takes is some open eyes & some open ears. The truth has been playing itself out on live TV. January 24, 2008 5:00 PM

9:06 AM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Not only do I publish the comments from my blog... but also from the "Too Late Thoughtless" errr I mean "Sooner Thought Wrong" blog as well! Fair and balanced publishing.

Jake provides yet another example of the civil discourse and type of thoughtful retort touted by thoughtless.

(Not a Blogger) jake said...

As a "geezer" myself, I hope your readers don't think we are all of a similar mindset with Mr. Tater. Some of us can actually still use the few brain cells we have left. Which may explain his lack of reasoning - he has no brain cells.

Mystery solved.

But he was good for a few good stories down at the watering hole.

Buh-bye, Tater. You won't be missed.

January 25, 2008 3:57 PM

Not to worry Jake, I didn't go anywhere. Have another gulp of koolaid on me buddy!

8:20 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Here is a comment that I submitted to Sooner Thought blog that was too offensive and mean spirited for him to publish.
It's a list of healthcare providers in OKC that offer free and low cost (what you can afford) medical care.

Free or Low-Cost Health Services
in the Oklahoma City Metro

We are just one of many organizations that provide some free or low-cost healthcare services in our community. Here is a list of some of the other organizations that serve the medically needy in the Metro area. This list is provided for your convenience and does not constitute a recommendation of any specific organization or provider. Remember to ALWAYS call first to see if you, or your family member, can qualify and when you can be seen. All of these providers follow business rules regarding who qualifies for their services.

The following may provide one or more services, including: Children’s Services, Dental Care, Eye Care & Glasses, General Care, Medication Assistance, Mental Health Services, or Women’s Services.

Download Printable PDF Version of List

Baptist Mission
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
2125 Exchange Ave, Oklahoma City | 235-6162

Charity Eye Clinic
(eye care & glasses)
701 NW 8th, Oklahoma City | 236-5212

(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
3815 N Santa Fe, Suite 122, Oklahoma City | 524-8100

Community Action Agency
(eye care & glasses)
1900 NW 10th, Oklahoma City | 232-0199

Community Vision Clinic
(eye care & glasses)
3840 N Lincoln, Oklahoma City | 473-7430

County Pharmacy
(medication assistance)
7401 NE 23rd, Oklahoma City | 713-1893

Good Shepherd Ministries
(children’s services, dental care, general care, women’s services)
222 NW 12th, Oklahoma City | 232-8631

Guild of St. George
(medication assistance)
117 NW 7th, Oklahoma City | 235-3436

Healing Hands Health Care
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
411 NW 11th, Oklahoma City | 272-0476

Health For Friends
(children’s services, dental care, eye care & glasses, general care, women’s services)
317 E Himes St, Norman | 329-4161

Hope Center Health Clinic
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
7 N Broadway, Edmond | 348-4680

Hope Community Service
(mental health services)
Oklahoma City | 632-1900

Lion’s Eye Bank
(eye care & glasses)
4123 NW 10th, Oklahoma City | 557-1393 or 947-6540 for glasses

Little Flower Clinic
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
11th and N. Walker, Oklahoma City | 235-7055

Mary Mahoney Memorial Health Center
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
12716 NE 36th, Oklahoma City | 769-3301

Medication Assist
(medication assistance)
711 Stanton L Young, #700, Oklahoma City | 228-3200

Ministries of Jesus
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
3456 S Boulevard, Edmond | 340-7400

Neighborhood Service Organization
(dental care)
614 NE 4th, Oklahoma City | 236-0413

North Care Center – Adults
(mental health services)
1140 N Hudson, Oklahoma City | 272-0660

North Care Center – Children
(mental health services)
NW 50th & Meridian, Oklahoma City | 858-2700

Oklahoma City County Health Department
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
921 NE 23rd, Oklahoma City | 427-8651

Oklahoma City County Health Department West
(children’s services, women’s services)
4330 NW 10th, Oklahoma City | 419-4150

Oklahoma Community Health Service
(children’s services, dental care, general care, women’s services)
1025 Straka Terrace, Oklahoma City | 632-6688

Olivet Baptist Church
(children’s services, dental care, eye care & glasses, general care, women’s services)
1201 NW 10th, Oklahoma City | 951-2645

Project Woman
(mammograms only - women’s services)
Central Oklahoma | 604-4642

Rx for Oklahoma
(medication assistance)
1125 E Main Street, Norman | 701-8216

St. Charles Catholic Church
(children’s services, general care, women’s services)
5024 N Grove, Oklahoma City | 789-2595

University of Oklahoma School of Dentistry
(dental care)
1201 Stonewall Ave, Oklahoma City | 271-6056

Variety Health Center
(children’s services, women’s services)
420 NW 6th, Oklahoma City | 235-6466

Variety Health Center
(children’s services, women’s services)
3851 Tinker Diagonal, Del City | 677-1129

Pretty impressive list isn't it?
Sooner Thought Blog refused to publish it because it doesn't fit his liberal democrat agenda.
Sad. He could be helping people instead of just hating Republicans 24/7
There is a link to this list and also for FREE healthcare in Denver located in my sidebar. Look for the big Blue "H" Hospital sign.

-red stater

9:56 PM  

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