Friday, June 19, 2009

Ignorant Question of the Century

Washington Post:- "The Senate unanimously passed a resolution yesterday apologizing for slavery, making way for a joint congressional resolution and the latest attempt by the federal government to take responsibility for 2 1/2 centuries of slavery."

"You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago," Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), lead sponsor of the resolution said.

Why "we" didn't apologize 100 years ago?
No... actually I don't wonder Senator, YOU DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES WHO OPPOSED ABOLISHING SLAVERY you moron.... no wonder you all feel so guilty NOW, 100 years later, you were the ones who worked so hard to keep African Americans enslaved and still do so to this day. Senator, a quick google would have told you that 100 years ago (1909) Democrats were too busy defending Jim Crow laws to prevent blacks from voting and was when " White Democrats used their power to segregate public spaces and facilities in law and reestablish dominance over blacks in the South." Apology was the last thing on Democrats minds 100 years ago.
Yet you wonder...

Of course the Democrat controlled news media and the leftist college professors say it is the Republicans that need to apologize...
"Carol M. Swain, a professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University who had pushed for the Bush administration to issue an apology, called the Democratic-controlled Senate's resolution "meaningless" since the party and federal government are led by a black president and black voters are closely aligned with the Democratic party.

"The Republican Party needed to do it," Swain said. "It would have shed that racist scab on the party."

Republicans freed the slaves and voted to pass civil rights legislation... but no word from you about the racist scab that goes by the name of Senator Robert KKK Byrd (D) and his pals the Rev's Al Sharpton (D), Jesse Jackson (D) and Jeremiah Wright (O)?

Hey professor Swain, what about that racist, open, festering, oozing sore that is the Democrat(ic) party?

I wonder?

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Blogger Dave said...

You really could have made your point without calling Democrats morons.

The Democratic Party got all of the southern, generally conservative (the state’s rights, order loving, Hamilton types), racists because they hated Lincoln and his party (the GOP) and thus flocked to the Democratic Party. I'm not defending anyone here mind you...I think the Democratic Party is run by a bunch of power hungry, self-serving, self-interested, self-righteous politicians (and so is the GOP for that matter). What I am trying to do is present the honest history of the situation.

The modern Democratic Party; the post-Civil War, pre-Kennedy Democratic Party; and the party that Jefferson and Madison started are all completely different. Yes, they are the same party organizationally, but as far as the values that they espouse, they are very different.

12:33 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Dave... the guy wondered why Democrats didn't apologize for slavery at the very time they were using Jim Crow laws to undermine the freedom of slaves (by a Republican), fought to prevent blacks from voting in the 1912 Presidential election, segregation and so on.

They (Democrat party) are different in that now they use a much different tactic to keep blacks enslaved. A much more subversive way.
"Vote for me and I will tax rich white men and give it all to you"

Well, here's their chance.
Let's see just how much better off the poor is after Democrats destroy the very source of revenue (capitalism) which feeds their welfare checks in the first place.

Check back with me in 4 years after Pelosi, Reid and Obama cure poverty and end racism and create total social justice for all (except their political opponents).

Sorry dave, but in my opinion... the primary source of racism is on the left.
Conservatives stand for equality for all dave... no matter color, race, religion, sex, age or political affiliation. We oppose laws like Affirmative Action because it is racist to favor one over another because of color... no matter the color.

Conservatives are not the racists of today.

12:47 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

BTW- "moron" was the nicest thing I could think of for someone asking such a moronic question.
"Why didn't we do it (apologize to blacks for slavery) 100 years ago?"

DUHHHH Attention Tom Harkin (and other Democrats interested in the history of racism in America)- google "Jim Crow Democrats" you history re-writing, lying, partisan pandering hatemonger.

There... is that better?

12:52 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

No, but at least you tried. The simple fact is they are all (Democrat and Republican alike) "history re-writing, lying, partisan pandering hatemonger(s)".

12:54 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

"Sorry dave, but in my opinion... the primary source of racism is on the left."

*sigh* Sure Red. All of the ills of the world are the left's doing. You win.

"Conservatives stand for equality for all dave... no matter color, race, religion, sex, age or political affiliation."

Unless of course you're gay and want to marry your life-long partner so that you can have the same legal rights and responsibilities as a straight married couple. Then you’re just crap out of luck because you are an affront to all of the good and moral God loving Christians in this country. That’s definitely all about equality. Go GOP! :-P

12:59 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

Excuse me, but I believe your beloved President (you voted for) and the official line of the Democrat party oppose gay marriage.

Careful throwing rocks from behind glass walls.

As we have discussed there is much legal evidence to support CIVIL UNIONS to be fair, and meet the equal but separate criteria and most Republicans support civil unions.
There is no need for homosexual marriage and Democrats agree.

1:05 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

*sigh* Get off your high horse sir. I was being snarky.

Yes the president that I voted for, and regret voting for now, opposes gay marriage.

As I have said MANY MANY times, I am fine with civil unions. In fact I think that the government should get out of the marriage business and ONLY issue civil unions. Unfortunately most seem to disagree (in fact I seem to remember that YOU even disagreed with my position).

1:09 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

ohhh snarky meister huh?
Okay, I'm cool with that.

Yes I would disagree with any proposal to dissolve traditional marriage and make gay marriage and/or civil unions the standard.

Marriage has a long standing legal definition in place. Part of that definition is that it is between one man and one woman.

Chaz Bono has the right idea if marriage for homosexuals is the goal.

(Hey dave... offtopic- don't know if you saw my "best of" post, but have you ever been to TacoVille?)

2:30 PM  
Blogger Otter said...

i have never been there myself, but i drove by it a couple of times I think. it's on the south side, right?

2:56 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

yeah... over by Portland and SW 29th street. Tiny little dive, only has about 8 or 9 things on the menu but man-o-man.

I called them and tried to get them to ship me a case of bottles of their taco sauce that they sell at Tacoville, but they're not set up to ship. So I'll have my brother go out there and get me some... it took me a year to go through the 24 bottles that I bought before we left.

4:29 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

I only know of one restaurant in Seattle... and I love it.
Ivar's Acres of Clams on like pier 54 or something like that.

4:32 PM  
Blogger Red S Tater said...

And we're back after that brief commercial message.

The Democrat Party: A long historical pattern of racism which continues to this day, while painting opponents as "racist".

discuss (over taco's with Hot Sauce from TacoVille)...

4:43 PM  
Blogger Man of the West said...

Hmmmm. You make a good point, Dave, when you say that the parties have changed over the years. When I have pointed out to Democrats that their party was once the party of limited government, of local government, I have watched the results with amusement. Likewise, I have watched with slack-jawed astonishment as Republican after Republican has repudiated economic policy that met with great success for decades (tariffs instead of progressive income taxes) in favor of a more-or-less unilateral free trade policy that has never been demonstrated to work as intended.

The parties change. No question about it. And I would likewise agree with your characterizations of politicians' personal characteristics, regardless of party. It scarcely makes any difference what a politician says he believes any more. The only things they're really interested in are personal power and aggrandizement.

But in this case, I think a couple of points have to be conceded:

1) Harkin's question, if taken at face value, was dumb as a bag of hammers. If he really didn't know that little bit of history, if he's really no more knowledgeable on his own party's history than a bunch of bloggers (C'mon, think about it..), I'm not at all sure he has any real business in the Senate.

2) The Democratic Party basically went, in the space of just a few years, from supporting slavery, then Jim Crow, to supporting social legislation that has largely--as Red has very accurately pointed out (Thomas Sowell has written some excellent columns on this very subject, if you care to google them. You might try "Thomas Sowell + statistics + black family" and see what you come up with.) destroyed the black family in this country and turned only God knows how many people into state-dependent welfare leeches, and they did this, as far as I can tell, for the purpose of creating a permanent voting bloc. La Shawn Barber has written quite a bit about this sort of thing, as has Star Parker (Uncle Sam's Plantation is a real eye-opener, and is probably available through your local library)

Democrats pretty much went directly from slavery and Jim Crow to a policy of maintaining political power through race-baiting demagoguery. As sorry as the Republicans are in some respects, I don't think they hold a candle to Democrats (speaking in general terms, present company excluded, of course :) ) when it comes to race.

If anyone's interested, I did a whole post on racism some time back. Who knows, you might enjoy it. :)

8:24 PM  

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